You may have noticed that I haven’t posted any Infinities for a while. The reason being that my source has currently dried up and it doesn’t look like it will be changing anytime soon. I will of course endeavor to find alternate sources, but in the mean time I will do my best to get through some of the back catalogue of Dragon Gate and Toryumon stuff I have. Maybe even get around to doing some of those compilations I promised.

Hopefully this won’t last for too long so please continue to check back often as I’ll do my best to make sure there is new content as often as possible.

Update
Sorry for the lack of updates. Things have been kind of hectic for me lately. Luckily some of our visitors have been kind enough to share links for Infinities 190-195. You can find them in the comments of this post. I will have them up on the site as soon as I have them myself. Big thanks to ryo saiba, Nick, Alan4L and Willthebloody for tracking these down.

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  • YES! Thanks for the hope of more Toryumon Seth!

  • ryo saeba

    there are no forums which has those shows either.
    it s a little weird because normally dgate is the promotion which is the most fast in term of finding recents(faster than Noah)

  • The guy who was getting them to the net so fast decided to stop. Nobody has taken up the task yet. So we wait, just like fans of other puro companies now. It’s a bummer.

  • ryo saeba

    there is a guy whose japanese fans called “god” who upload on perfect dark all the puro shows since 10 years……(if he did not do that even a lot of japaneses could not watch puro,that s why they give him that nickname)
    that guy will put the shows there soon(he seems on a little hiatus now but he ll come back soon)

  • mastermind

    man 1 guy was responsible for all of those japanese rips? you would think there would’ve been others considering how long all of this has been going on

  • mastermind

    btw i finally found my infinity collection it goes back to episode 53 i also have the very first episode but none immediately following it

  • Nate

    Desu died?

  • ryo saeba

    yeah Mastermind, that s what one of japanese friend told me,he said me he might be given money for do that,even if it s not sure

    anyway,you can easily understand why the guy take some break.

  • mastermind

    so what does everyone think of the new units?

    Doi,Kanda,Tanizaki,Kzy & Sugawara

    Yoshino, K-Nesuka, PAC & Kotoka

    where will Araken? & Hulk go?

  • Seth

    AFAIK isn’t Hulk still with W-1? I mean he’s not part of the 8-man I know but there wasn’t any mention of him leaving, and he was in the winning team for the 6-man.

    I like the new heel unit although I’m immensely disappointed it was Suga under the Muscle mask, although not altogether surprised.

    I also don’t believe that KneSuka is with W-1. They are just teaming with them right now. I wonder if Gamma will join the new heel unit, what with all these attacks on K-ness… Maybe CIMA will form a new unit with Genki and Araken? Maybe CIMA won’t even be in a new unit…

  • mastermind

    well i think World-1 should end especially without Doi, despite yoshino being the catalyst to the unit’s origin. i like that k-nesuka has their backs and would love to see them finally have a triangle combo.

    warriors should definitely end by years end if not right after. gamma is clearly turning heel i would love to see CIMA stick by his side especially since K-Nesuka is on the other side of this unit shuffle.

    but that would leave genki,saito,kid,araken & maaaybe Hulk (who should re-unite with his new hazard mates anyways) anthony needs to reappear as well

    mochi & shisa will be spending novemeber in NJPW so i doubt we’ll see any movement with them or Fuji unless he joins up with somebody in Mochi’s absence

  • mastermind

    something jae left off of yesterdays results, but theres a pic on sportsnavi of tanizaki & sugawara confronting the triangle champs but tani is directly pointing at gamma

    http://ca.c.yimg.jp/sports/1286982964/img.sports.yahoo.co.jp/spnavi/photo/fight/201010/13/20101013018.jpg

  • Seth

    I wouldn’t even bother considering Shisa or Mochi in any of this. We’ll probably never see either in a unit again and the same goes for Fujii. That’s why I’m also thinking maybe CIMA will move on and become a part of Zetsurins. Mochi, Fujii and CIMA could be a likely triangle gate team anyway, especially with the bridge of Fujii.

    My problem with your second team (Genki, SaiRyo etc) is that there isn’t really an established leader among them. Sure, it might be good to see Hulk take the reigns, but Ryo wasn’t able to capitalise on his last opportunity to lead (again) and I think his time to do so is up. Genki is mad over, but he isn’t really leadership material either. Personally I’d love to see Kid lead, but I think we all know that will never happen. I was very surprised we didn’t see a Hulk image change and they’ve probably missed the boat on that too unless he turns heel (again, unlikely).

    Anyway, probably KAMIKAZE will be the only faction to stay intact, although there’s no reason to think the odd person here or there won’t move around inside there too. Shingo, YAMATO, KAGE and Kong are all sure to stay though. Fingers crossed a returning Tozawa plays a big part somewhere.

  • Zacky

    Me personally I’m a bit disappointed that Doi turned but not at all surprised by it though for some reason

  • Seth

    Why were you disappointed?

  • ryo saeba

    there is maybe a cool thing with the face turn of arai.maybe,he s gonnado 450 splash again

    it s normal doi turned
    -he was with yoshino like forever
    -heel needed credible leader
    -doi won t be champ anytime soon because of his lengthy reign,so as you can t world champ when you re bad guy sadly ,well it s smart

    hey,saito was very cool as the leader of rh
    if it was not injured it could have been great,it was just bad luck

    anyway,the best thing is that rongai and akebono seemed to have disappeared,yes !!!!!!!(for mazada it s sure he won t come back :-) )

  • ryo saeba

    hopefully,new heel faction will have good name

  • Zacky

    @Seth The only reason I’m disappointed is because now there is no more Speed Muscle, and I’m a huge fan of Speed Muscle as a team and indivdually, but at the same time Ryo brings up a good point about why he needed to turn so like I said I wasn’t surprised just disappointed it had to be him because if Gamma turns he could be a good leader hell he led Real Hazard plus it could restart the feud with CIMA but it also seems like Gamma’s gonna turn anyways. Especially now that K-Nesuka is in some sense allied with World-1

  • ryo saeba

    i d prefer Doi to be the leader because he d be more serious than Gamma who will still do comedy stuff

    furthermore,the big story of the new heel faction is that the leader of the top face faction decided to go the dark side,so he needs to the leader
    then,doi is a bigger star than gamma in dg i think now,it s not like the time gamma and doi were in the muscle outlaws,in which doi was more a tag team specialist and not a former unbeatable world champ

  • Zacky

    Very true also I feel like World-1 gained more then they lost I mean yeah sure they lost Doi who was the unbeatable Dream Champ and even Tani who had a very successful Brave Gate run but now they have K-Ness and Susumu backing them up sure they’re not official members of W-1 but they’re affiliates. Does anyone feel they same way?

  • ryo saeba

    maybe,they ll rename world-1 because doi was always the leader and the members will decide to not continue under that name to turn a chapter in their wrestling career.

    i do not know because doi was unbeatable in single competition and was one half of the best tag team in dg history,Tani was good also like you said,it s a huge loss,i m not sure k-nesuka is so much an addition

    anyway,i m happy with those units change because suga won t have such a big push and will be used more in tag teams where the others will cover the fact he s ultra slow in the ring
    at least,zero-1 understood that faster and always put a talented guy with him

    coming back to the warriors,if they split they would have been a disappointed unit
    first,with kagetora,susuma and ryoma,they were ok but they were not a top unit,then they put kid,genki and saito and despite the fact they only have great wrestlers,they were an afterthought unit,compared to world-1 and kamikaze
    the potential of that unit has not really been exploited fully it s a shame

  • mastermind

    my only prob with this new unit is it’s kind of the muscle outlawz all over again man if brother YASSHI came back though it would be so awesome, some kind of Aagan/Mo’z blend would be super cool.

    world-1 is over….i don’t want knesuka becoming members of world-1 i’d rather have a brand new unit with Yoshino/K-Nesuka and whoever, i have a hunch we could see a Hulk betrayal during that 8 man tag, if you remember tani’s main tag partners were Doi & Hulk never Yoshino or the rest.

    warriors was an ok unit they turned genki back to face successfully and revived HAGE and it worked, saito’s transition from injury worked perfectly nobody seemed to notice that he’s not retarded anymore he’s back to regular old SaiRyo

    if warriors ends and CIMA goes the Mochi route, which is never joining a unit again that then that’s cool with me, I want to see RyoSuka back together again though I hope he joins up with K-Nesuka, and don’t forget the short lived K-NeSINO team looked like they would’ve been awesome too. so those 4 in a unit would be win for me

    I guess that would leave Genki, Araken & Kid high and dry for the time being but they’ll find a place somewhere eventually i wish DG would get Magnum & Milano on the phone and beg them to come back I miss the days when they had 4 aces that were all equally over

  • Zacky

    I can definitely see a Hulk heel turn happening at some point but if he does join the new Doi led unit its basically the original W-1 minus Yoshino if think about it. Tani, Hulk, Doi, Kzy, all W-1 original members with Suga and Kanda just there. K-Nesuka, Yoshino, and Saito would be a good unit to see but what would be the explanation for Genki and SaiRyo parting ways they’re both over especially Genki so no heel turn there, SaiRyo turning Heel would negate him possibly joining the K-Nesuka/Yoshino unit if there is one as it most likely would be Face.

    Warriors I can see coming to an end due to a Gamma betrayal with CIMA being idk like depressed or something because his “Best Partner” betrayed him and it would tie in to the whole Tani betraying w-1 and Doi betraying Yoshino. plus if you think about it every member of this new unit has betrayed at least one unit in there Dragon Gate Career. Suga: Royal Brothers & Veteran Army, Kanda: M2K & Real Hazard Clean Fight Side, Kzy: W-1 & Real Hazard Clean Fight Side, Doi: World-1 & Final M2K I think, Tani: Do Fixer & World-1, so Gamma doing a Warriors betrayal and joining them would fit into the theme of it.

  • Zacky

    also about Kamikaze I say maybe just as a maybe Hulk could join them just as like a New Hazard reunion thing you know or maybe have Tozawa try another unit with himself, KAGE, Araken, & Taku you know all 3 have some connection to him but this is most likely never gonna happen though it would be a weird thing to happen nonetheless

  • ryo saeba

    i m happy they gave saito his brain back,that storyline was too much wwe/tna stupid style……

    no,i hope genki/saito to be twin gate champ before they split.

    just hope arai won t be lost in the shuffle like anthony

  • mastermind

    Doi also betrayed Blood Generation, as did Gamma, and Kanda also betrayed Mushozoku for the Muscle Outlaw’z as well

    i don’t the MaraIssa will win the twins the evil version had them not too long ago. they were the first team to hold the brand new belts.

    but i suppose it wouldn’t be that bad if genki joined my projected yoshino/k-ness/ryo/suka unit you could make a tag team from all 5 guys and 4 out of 5 teamed together in Do Fixer at one point so i think it would work out

  • Zacky

    @ mastermind yes that would be true all the things you stated that MaraIssa might not win the Twin and I can believe that. So who do you guys see possibly turning from Kamikaze because they are sure to lose at least one member and I think its going to be Tozawa which would be good because then he can feud with KAGE and get both of them some much need spotlight plus it’d be a pretty good feud but that’s just me being a hopeful

  • ryo saeba

    i do not see any Kamikaze guys moving personally
    i think tozawa,kage and an other guy can be triangle champ

  • mastermind

    oh god Akebono is invading DGUSA….

    although i’m intrigued by this Hulk & Homicide combo lol

  • ryo saeba

    i thought you did not watched dgusa

    btw seth , i can say your site is really one of the best about puroresu
    i mean i visit this site since a lot of times now,and aside the shows you give us,there is a respectful way to talk between people who write here that i enjoy very much,unlike a lot and lot of others forums where people always finish to insult the other

    so thank you for giving birth to this site and guys thanks for your cool contribution to give to this site a nice place where we can respectfully share infos and discuss about dgate,otherwise i d stop writing on the internet

  • Zacky

    I agree with Ryo in most places you get bashed for not agreeing with the site makers opinions on the company, the wrestlers, etc. but here we can all voice our own opinions on the matter like here I can say I like the Tokyo Gurentai and while you guys may not agree with me you don’t go about bashing me by saying I’m a homo, a troll, etc. you guys actually show respect towards my opinion regardless of you liking it or not because we all have our own views of things.

    Akebono in any company that doesn’t have Heavyweights is god awful he doesn’t fit in anywhere in DG or DGUSA

    so has anyone else checked Jae’s site for today’s results

  • Seth

    Thanks guys, I appreciate that. Course, I can’t take any credit for the discourse in the comments since that is all you guys.

    Sorry I haven’t been updating the site for a while. I’ve been getting lazy in getting some shows up. In fact mastermind was generous enough to send me some early Infinities that I’ve unfortunately not gotten up yet. I’ll try and do it asap.

  • Seth

    @Zacky don’t worry about posting spoilers, especially when there’s no new shows coming out on the net right now. The only time I’m worry about people posting spoilers is before a PPV has aired, but again, I’m not going to try and stop people from doing it, I’ll just advise that if you don’t want to read them then stay away from the comments until you’ve seen the show. :)

  • Zacky

    Thanks Seth also I have a question about the Dream Gate has it ever been defended in a Multi-man match? if so does everyone get a key to the gate? and if the champion retains does every single key get added to the belt or is it just one key signifying a single defense? sorry I’m curious now

  • Seth

    As far as I can recall the Dream Gate has only ever been defended in regular singles matches.

  • Zacky

    hm I figured as much so I wonder what will happen if they make this the first 3 way title defense like I said does each one get a key or something

    thank you Seth for putting up with my constant questions

  • mastermind

    in the end zacky i doubt it will matter i think what will happen is doi winds up being gamma’s mystery man

  • Seth

    Did I miss something? Who else is in line for a Dream Gate shot apart from CIMA?

    In any case, I don’t think they will ever make a triple threat for the Dream Gate. That’s just not Dragon Gate’s style.

  • Seth

    Oh never mind I just saw that Doi challenged for a three way haha.

    I stand by what I said though. I think mastermind is right. I think Doi will likely be X.

  • ryo saeba

    @zacky yes i think nobody here will insult you for your personnal taste.
    i mean you liked gurentai show and you said you like suga,so i think it s perfectly understable,everyone can have his own taste.
    it s just so stupid to insult someone because he does not share your opinion……

    it s like you ask plenty of questions,i think it s fine and very cool because you try to improve your knowledge about something you like,but in some forums they will just bash you because they ll say who do not know anything,like it was my case the others where i did not recalled that some guy had a belt during the exact numbers of months or i did not knew exactly which guy was the real booker of the ajpw jr division……

  • ryo saeba

    anyway,it s cool that everyone here think the same

  • mastermind

    i guess the new unit is keeping the DD colors for now i can’t make out what sugawara or kanda’s shirts say

    http://spora.jp/doinaruki/file/1031/SU1HXzU3MzgVCQ.jpg

  • Seth

    Looks like Smashing Skulls (smashing and then 4 skulls underneath).

  • Zacky

    @ryo Thank you man for understanding

    @Seth and Mastermind yeah it is definitely Smashing and something with an S for sure

  • ryo saeba

    i do not understand why they do not have a unit name,maybe when gamma joins they ll find one

  • ryo saeba

    i wonder why they pushed tanisaki since last year
    i mean i like him a lot but before 2009,he had never won any belt and suddenly he won 3 belts in 2 years

    maybe,he won importance backstage,i do not know

  • mastermind

    if you remember tanizaki left dg because he was strictly a jobber to jack evans almost all of 2007 he left and joined rival el dorado and also did some deathmatches before returning to dg, he sort of had to win the office back over and he’s certainly done that thus far

  • ryo saeba

    what are Saito s Kinta Tamaoka Power Bomb and hulk s h thunder?.

  • Zacky

    Hulk’s H Thunder is I believe to be the same move Hayabusa used which would make it a Scoop Side Piledriver

  • mastermind

    Kinta Tamaoka is a referee he powerbombed stalker and pinned him with one foot while ryo saito counted the pin and it counted because it’s stalker….