Infinity #179
THE GATE OF MAXIMUM 2010
June 10th, 2010
Tokyo Korakuen Hall
2,230 Fans – No Vacancy
1. Special Single Match – Susumu Yokosuka vs. Cyber Kong
2. Open the Triangle Gate Championship – CIMA, Gamma & Genki Horiguchi (c) vs. YAMATO, Shingo Takagi & KAGETORA
3. Dragon Kid Breast (of Makoto Hashi) Touch Right Match – Dragon Kid, Ryo Saito & Makoto Hashi vs. Naruki Doi, PAC & Mark Haskins (Clipped)
4. Takuya Sugawara & Kzy vs. Masato Yoshino & BxB Hulk *Clipped*
what is your preditions on world guys?.
here s mine
1)d drunkers beat kokota haskins tanisaki. kzy pins kokota with c-dj
2)the fat boys pin the idiots in a dull match.
3)saito kid wins the 4 tag team match. kid pins tozawa kengai.
4)warriors beat the osaka trios top retain. cima pins the bodyguard with the meteora.
5)k-nesuka beat zetsurin.yokosuka with jumbo no kachi on fuji.
6)shingo beat hulk. hulk will be bald and turn heel later.
7)yoshino beat yamato with the avanlanche lightning spiral to become champ!!!!!!!
I think I’d agree with that for the most part. Not sure KneSuka will retain though.
Oh cool you think Yoshino will win like me. Damn,if zetsurins wins i ll be super disappointed. They need a long reign(not 1 defense) and to have great matches as a duo for many months.When they ll lose the belts it should be a great team for the winning team. If Zetsurins wins i do not see what could be interesting with that. Ok i m not fan of them and all but they have a war withe Osaka guys so they do not the straps by any means unlike k -nesuka. Btw,you gonna watch the fat boys vs the 3 idiots?It s gonna be horrible !!!!!!!!!.
Oh and yeah you think like me and some people on sss that hulk is gonna lose? I mean a lot of people think will win which will give him momentum but i think he already seen Shingo bald and that Drunkers need some new blood so it would be cool if Hulk and Tanisaki join imo. Dragon gate is great this year but the bad guys MUST be stronger.You can barely be champ in dgate as a heel so if the bad guys are weak too it s not fun at all !!!!.
Hulk will win then shave his own head and turn heel.
I don’t think it’s necessarily going to be a Hulk heel turn, as in Japan he is still really popular, but the fact that he dropped his dance routine shows that he is wanting to refresh his image. His hair is a big part of that also so having him shave in a hair vs hair match at the biggest show of the year makes perfect sense.
You do make a good point about Zetsurin being embroiled in this war with Osaka Pro. So you’re probably right in that KneSuka will retain.
I probably won’t watch the comedy/big man match. I don’t know if I can stomach it really…
I think the fact that MochiFuji are involved with Osaka is the reason why they will win. I’m pretty sure that feud is going to end with every belt except for the dream involved. MochiFuji steamrolled their tag festival and will probably win the Osaka tags from Momo no Senshun. I have a feeling Sengoku winds up with the twins quickly after this.
1. Drunkers win, Tani shows more signs of joining DD
2. Stalker pins Akebono lol!!! that’d be worth seeing
3. Pointless match, my guess Saito & Kid win it since they’re the only thing close to a real tag team.
4. This depends on Horiguchi vs Tigers on 7.3, if Genki wins the Brave than the Osaka team will win with Tigers over Gamma, if Genki loses than WARRIORS will retain Genki over Tigers rematch for the brave in DG
5. I explained my reasoning above, MochiFuji win the Twins, continuing Mochi’s current super streak of wins
6. Hulk HAS to lose his hair, Bald shingo does nothing for DG, we saw it after that whole monkey deal. The girls don’t want to see it happen and that’s why the crowd is going to be crazy for this one.
7. This one could go either way. I’m not sure YAMATO’s reign is over is the only thing. He got the biggest build up until his reign. Cruising through the Jcup only to lose to Devitt and his run in the BOSJ 09 defeating Liger & Kanemoto. Not to mention the most baffling face turn of all time which still worked because of his awesome-ness. I just can’t see him losing yet.
My case for Yoshino though is they did this exact same thing to Shingo and that is take the belt away while he was still hot. Because of that I always thought that Shingo would win get the belt back one day. It’s possible that they do this to YAMATO just in case they HAVE to give him the belt back. An example of what I’m talking about is 2006 when they gave Liger the belt because clearly Ryo, Susumu & Fuji weren’t ready to lead the company and may never will and there was no Magnum or Milano so CIMA HAD to win Dream. If they ever face that problem again they have Shingo & YAMATO, and hopefully Hulk will be ready to lead as well.
So i’m torn 50/50 on the Dream gate which is probably good because I really have no idea who’s going to win
Agreed on the final match that it’s almost too hard to call. But they have to have at least one title change hands. You say Zetsurins will take it but I’m not sure. Yoshino has been white hot for so long and this is his best chance to take it. I think he has the momentum going in for sure.
I personally would love to see a long reign with YAMATO but after the Doi one I think it would be unlikely to see a monster reign like his. YAMATO has had some good defenses already in his short reign, but like you said, if they take it off him now he can get it back later, unlike Doi who may never get it again.
It’s goond that it’s not so obvious though. These days Dragon Gate PPVs are so predictable and I’m glad they are mixing it up for World.
the ppvs are not that predictable. it was not sure YAMATO was going to beat Shingo who was super hot at that time.
why you say the tag match will be pointless mastermind?.
ok the guys in there are not real a tag team but damn i’m sure it ll be fun to watch unlike the second match…….(ok rongai sucks but the others are fun to watch).
even if hulk does not lose his hair i want him or someone else aside tanisaki to join drunkers.
it ll be fun to see the pretty nice guy to become an alchoolic heel who has a blue box.
arai and kanda teaming up with hulk that could be a nice thing :-)
btw,they could find another stip than the hair.
i know for dgate guys who have super haircut it s a big deal but damn find something else……(yeah i know hair shaven must a relation with losing honor but damn change things…..)
Btw,i think i know why suga won’t be at World.
yeah,there is a zero 1 show the same day in tokyo,so suga can t be in both shows.
oh yeah,why world is in kobe?.
normally,the place to be in puro for big events is at the korakuen….
it s dgate headquarters or what?.
yes theres a zero1 show on the same day but as far as I know suga is not scheduled to be on it.
kobe is dgate headquarters yes but for the majors korakuen is for their big tv shows, noah uses korakuen for their rather unimportant tv shows. korakuen is only a 2000 plus person house. kobe world is 9000 plus house. up until 09 that was the biggest house they ran and it’s still their wrestlemania although ryogoku is starting to look more like their version of WM now.
i have an other reason to say that k-nesuka will retain their straps . zetsurins will probably win the osaka tag straps so they do not need the twin gates. furthermore,if they lose the belts k-nesuka will be lost in the shuffle so they will retain the belts at world.
K-Nesuka is already lost in the shuffle they won their feud over DD/Rough Fight RH, they won the twins, they need to join a real unit now. To me the clear fix is send Osaka06 to the Deep Drunkers and have Knesuka & the rest of Warriors join up but it doesn’t appear to be heading that way.
I think the most likely thing to happen is we see World-1 finally die. If Hulk loses his hair I think he will wind up in Kamikaze. He can’t seem to escape the NH guys I think the future of DG revolves around those 4 guys too.
What happens to Doi depends on Yoshino, I think if Yoshino wins the belt he breaks away from Doi, if he loses those 2 stick together.
Tanizaki we know is on his way out, Kotoka….mexico they’ll call you up when you’re ready like Kzy.
I disagree k-nesuka is not lost in the shuffle. They have the tag belts and they score good single win like susumu over kong . Dgate is gonna build them as an unbeatable tag team by letting them defend the straps 6 or 7 times and even winning the summer tag league like suzuki and kanemaru last year.Their goal is to be a great tag team so there is no way they ll lose in their 2nd defense……. k-nesuka joining warriors?what?????. i m strongly against that. i do not want them to act like morons.Warriors has already 5 guys who act like idiots it s enough!!! . I do not want to see k-ness and susumu wearing horrible trousers and being interest in very interesting things as hashi s chest…..
Tanisaki will leave? What???????
the strongest twin gate team so far has been Yamato & Cyber Kong with 4 defenses, doiyoshi only had 2 defenses, the twins don’t stay on teams for that long. i didn’t mean knesuka joining the warriors unit. i mean the warriors unit should split, cima and gamma should go to the drunkers while the other 3 and knesuka reunite do fixer.
tanizaki is on his way to deep drunkers is what i meant
1. I can see DD winning with more Tanizaki teasing.
2. Don’t know why I’m bothering to pick a winner, but the comedy guys could win if Abby turns on Akebono. This hinges on Dragon Gate actually going somewhere with Abby’s comments to Akebono after the Zetsurins/Abby & Gurentai Triangle Gate match.
3. I agree with Mastermind on this one.
4. I see Genki winning the Brave, so WARRIORS drops the Triangle Gate here. While I think Tigers winning the Brave Gate was awesome, the fact is that he’s too hurt to be holding a singles title.
5. K-NeSuka over Zetsurins, possibly by Osaka (LOV? Momo no Seishun Tag?) interference.
6. Shingo over Hulk to set up Hulk becoming a more serious wrestler (I hope).
7. Yoshino gets his run with the Dream Gate. While I love YAMATO as the champ, it’s not like he can only get one reign in his entire career. Plus, Yoshino deserves a chance.
Anyway i want k-nesuka to keep their song. When it s out the cd music i do not remember? hopefully i ll find links online.
the cd is supposed to be released on the 7th which is next wednesday
what is the move that genki los vs tigers?.
his move he beat taichi last year?.
why dgate always bring the likes akebono,hashi,rongai and now kikuchi?.
i do not understand what those guys can bring…..
it s not like dgate had not a loded roster…..
at least mazada won’t come in dgate anymore as he broke up with rongai but if i must choose between both i would have choosen mazada he s better wrestler than ronagai(yeah i know he does not mean much….).
As much as it pains me to say, I don’t dislike NOSAWA nearly as much as I used to. Basically at the December PPV he pretty much redeemed himself to me since he was one of the best performers on that show (minus the cage match). That doesn’t speak well for the rest of the roster on that night, but still… there is something there with NOSAWA. He isn’t a completely lost hope.
in december he did something good? what? at the ppv he was teaming with genki and kanda? he did nothing special…. oh yeah he was betrayed by his team mates that was cool. so seth what do you think about k-nesuka? you want them to keep their own duo like me or join a unit like mastermind say? i do not know why i think you ll think like mastermind but for me it make them special that they re just 2 guys although dgate is a unit thing and all.i think it s nice and that they won t be lost in the shuffle if they keep the twin belt.
btw,it s since the beginning of dgate they have that unit stuff? if yes why? i do not know the reasons but i think those units fight are cool and help the promotion stand out from others.
KneSuka: While a huge K-ness fan, I really am not a fan of Susumu, but them being together seems to be doing well. However, I worry that them being out of a unit for too long will become troublesome and they may start to veer towards Zetsurin status, something K-ness has been before and stuggled to leave. While there’s certainly nothing wrong with being Zetsurin, I think it’s hard to say that anything interesting will happen to you while there.
So, yes, I’m afraid I’m with mastermind in that I’d like to see them go to a unit, although wherever they go I want them to be a big force. Them flirting with RH was nice but a shame it didn’t really last. Well, I’m referring to K-ness really, not Susumu. He sucked in RH.
Anyway, Toryumon didn’t exactly start with all units, but it has pretty much been the case for 95% of it’s life. It all really started with the war between Crazy MAX and M2K way back when. Since then, and with the introduction of T2P (which internally also had several units) Toryumon and then Dragon Gate has always revolved around unit wars. And frankly, I wouldn’t have it any other way. It’s one of the biggest things that drew me to the company in the first place and one of the reasons I continue to watch it.